Hi Seth friends, even in death it seems it ain’t over until we say it’s over… – Seth Quote posted on Facebook by Lynda Madden Dahl, June 4, 2019.
“Perhaps your life span runs for seventy-seven years. After death you may, under certain conditions and if you choose, experience the events of those seventy-seven years at your leisure—BUT NOT NECESSARILY in terms of continuity. You may alter the events. You can manipulate within that particular dimension of activity that represented your seventy-seven years.
“If you find severe errors of judgment, you may then correct them. You may perfect, in other words, but you cannot again ENTER INTO THAT FRAME OF REFERENCE as a completely participating consciousness following, say, the historic trends of the time, joining into the mass-hallucinated existence that resulted from the applied consciousness of your self and your ‘contemporaries.’
“Some choose this rather than reincarnating, or rather as a study before a new reincarnation. These people are often perfectionists at heart. They must go back and create. They must right their errors. They use the immediately-past life as a canvas, and with the same ‘canvas,’ they attempt a better picture.
“This is a mental and psychic exercise, undertaken by many, demanding great concentration, and is no more hallucinatory than any existence.”
Seth Speaks, Session 539
Roger Peterson Is it safe to say we’re all doing the best we can with what we know in this moment and learning more to do better; that, as multidimensional, vibrational Beings of Aware Energy, it is in our nature?
Lynda Madden Dahl I think it’s up to each of us individually to agree or disagree what you state above, Roger, about doing the best we can with what we know in this moment, etc. It’s not a universal statement that can be made to cover all…nor should it be, since we’re all on different paths and at different locations on those paths. 😉
Roger Peterson Yes, we are on different paths in one sense, but in another, we are on the same path, the path of the greatest possible fulfillment of all Being and Creation. If Aware Energy (Consciousness) is the Source and Substance of All That Is, doesn’t that make us both one with and separate from each other? Doesn’t it make us both products of creation and creation itself? If one of us discovers something of value, doesn’t compassion tell us to share it with others who might be suffering from the same dilemma as us previously.
As creators in our own right, which message do we want to send out into the world, the idea that we’re bad and can’t be forgiven until we repent (as judged by who?) or, the belief that we’re doing the best we can with what we know and learning more to do better? Isn’t the value of an idea in the reality it creates and what we can learn from it? Yes, we’re all free to think and feel what we want, until we fail or refuse to take responsibility for the consequences of our thoughts, feelings, actions and reactions, and someone suffers as a result.
Having an exchange like this can lead to greater awareness and understanding if our shared goal is value fulfillment and we practice idealism, do the best we can with what we know and learn more to do better.
Lynda Madden Dahl Physical reality isn’t meant to lead everyone on to a ‘spiritual’ path this time ’round, Roger. There are myriad lessons to be learned here that cannot be learned outside of physical reality.
Here are a couple Seth quotes that express exactly that:
* I want to stress that I am speaking here not so much about a kind of spiritual evolution as I am about an expansion of consciousness.
* You cannot appreciate your spirituality unless you appreciate your creaturehood. It is not a matter of rising above your nature, but of evolving from the full understanding of it. There is a difference.
* When you try to be spiritual by cutting off your creaturehood you become less than joyful, fulfilled, satisfied natural creatures, and fall far short of understanding true spirituality.
* The vitality of the universe is creativity and joy and love, and THAT is spirituality.
Lynda Madden Dahl Here’s another interesting comment from Seth on when a physical life may not be focused on ‘spirituality’, but instead on other important purposes:
“According to many schools of thought, artificial drugs, so-called, or chemicals, are considered in a very negative light, cutting you off from nature. Yet such experiments represent a strong line of probability only in its ‘infancy,’ in which man could sustain himself without draining the earth, live without killing animals, and literally form a new kind of physical structure CONNECTED to the earth, while not depleting its substance.
“This does not mean that some biological confusion might not result in the meantime. It does mean that even in THOSE terms, AND consciously UNKNOWING, mankind is experimenting with a probable species and working out quite spiritual issues.”
Roger Peterson: Lynda: “Physical reality isn’t meant to lead everyone on to a ‘spiritual’ path this time ’round, Roger. There are myriad lessons to be learned here that cannot be learned outside of physical reality.”
I agree with your observation, Lynda. I also agree with the Seth quotes you listed. However, I feel it’s important for me to say that I don’t agree with them because you or Seth say it or because it represents some kind of generally accepted orthodoxy. I agree with these observations because I can see them in myself and All That Is. The same holds true for Seth’s later observations.
Back to your original response to my question: Is it safe to say we’re all doing the best we can with what we know in this moment and learning more to do better; that, as multidimensional, vibrational Beings of Aware Energy, it (self-development) is in our nature?
You responded back: “I think it’s up to each of us individually to agree or disagree what you state above, Roger, about doing the best we can with what we know in this moment, etc. It’s not a universal statement that can be made to cover all…nor should it be, since we’re all on different paths and at different locations on those paths.”
First of all, it is my understanding that we are both on a shared path as well as our own path, simultaneously. If there is any truth to this idea and the idea that we’re all telepathically linked then sharing our personal stories with each other should have some meaning and value.
With that in mind here is the experience that led me to write about The Healing Power of Forgiveness. It occurred during meditation when I was in my early to mid-forties. For some reason I began to think about my parents and our strained, lifelong relationship. As I began to review old memories of our relationship, the words, “wait a minute” came up that set me on a new track of thought. Just like that, instead of thinking about all the things they made me do that I didn’t want to do, all the things I wanted and didn’t get, and all the ways they failed to measure up to the model of what I thought were ideal parents, I began to think about all the good things they did for my brothers and me. In addition, I found myself thinking about how challenging Being and Creation (life) is for everyone and everything. It’s hard enough to take care of ourselves, let alone raise a family with all the things required to make that happen.
When I placed the memory of how challenging life is for All That Is together with the appreciation of how much our parents actually did for us (food, shelter, clothing, warmth and more), I couldn’t help but cry in shame and forgiveness. I couldn’t believe how stubborn, insensitive, and blind I had been as a child to all they had done for us, while, at the same time, trying to live and make something of their own lives. After the emotions of guilt and shame finished playing out in my mind, they were replaced with thoughts and feelings of forgiveness, love, and lots of imaginary hugs. Forgiveness automatically turned into love. As it turned out, it was all a matter of perspective and limitation and all those things can be changed. As we think, feel, act and react, we create. To change what we create, we change what we think and feel, how we act and react.
After this experience, I began to look around and see that everyone around me, myself included, was doing the best they can with what they know and learning more to do better. The more I think about this idea, the more often I see it peeking out at me, and take joy from the sight of it.