There is never any justification for violence. There is no justification for hatred. There is no justification for murder. Those who indulge in violence for any reason are themselves changed, and the purity of their purpose adulterated.
I have told you that if you do not like the state of your world, it is yourselves that you must change, individually and en masse (together). This is the only way that change will be effected. If your generation or any generation effects a change, this is the only way it will be done. What I am telling you has been said before through the centuries. It is up to you whether or not you will listen.
It is wrong to curse a flower and wrong to curse a man [or woman]. It is wrong not to hold any man in honor, and it is wrong to ridicule any man. You must honor yourselves and see within yourselves the spirit of eternal vitality. If you do not do this, then you destroy what you touch. And you must honor each other individual also, because in him is the spark of eternal vitality.
When you curse yourself, you curse yourselves, and the curse returns to you. When you are violent, the violence returns… I speak to you because yours is the opportunity [to better world conditions] and yours is the time. Do not fall into the old ways that will lead you precisely into the world that you fear.
When every young man refuses to go to war, you will have peace. As long as you fight for gain and greed, there will be no peace. As long as one person commits acts of violence for the sake of peace, you will have war. Unfortunately, it is difficult to imagine that all the young men in all the countries will refuse to go to war at the same time. And so, you must work out the violence that violence has wrought. Within the next 100 years that time may come. Remember, you do not defend any idea with violence.
There is no man who hates but that that hatred is reflected outward and made physical. And there is no man who loves but that that love is reflected outward and made physical.
(Excerpt from end of Chapter 18, The Seth Material
Copyright © 1970 by Jane Roberts and Robert Butts. Material reprinted with permission from copyright holder, Laurel Davies-Butts.)
“It is wrong to curse a flower and wrong to curse a man”. Oh, the judgmental “Seth” ! If only “he” actually understood that there is both a positive and a negative polarity and that “he himself” (I believe Butts was mentally ill or at least unconsciously projecting to an extreme magnitude), upon telling and ordering people what to do and how to live, would be losing in his “positive” polarity. If you wish to read bona fide channeling, turn from the illusory Seth and find your grounding up the Ra Material. The usefulness of Seth to the collective consciousness has been mixed since it has, for some, allowed people to reach out to the metaphysical dimensions of experience, yet it simultaneously led then astray because the correctness of the metaphysical concepts are extremely wavering. In order to actually channel a SPIRIT, you can’t be drunk, rather it requires, typically, extreme care of the mind, body and spirit. As Ra says “we send a very narrow bandwidth vibration and had to wait until the instrument (channel) was precisely tuned”.
Peace, Joy & Light
Thank you for introducing me to the Ra Material, Joe! The quality of the questions asked of Ra are great too, even if, in some cases, they seem to be a little leading. By that I mean, the person asking the question seems to be looking for answers to validate their preestablished beliefs or theories, not necessarily the best answer.
My greatest area of interest in any philosophy is in how the great mystery behind Being is explained. Both Seth and Ra describe the origin of life, the reality behind reality, in a similar way. Essentially, they both suggest that Consciousness (Aware Energy) is the Source and Substance of All That Is.
Sure, I post Seth Material here. I also post material from other channeled sources that seems meaningful as well. I even like to interpret the nature of reality from my own perspective. It’s the only way I’m willing to accept full responsibility for what I say and do. The last thing I want to do is mislead myself or others. We’ve been asleep long enough and it’s time to wake up. Again, thanks for sharing the Ra Material with me!
Here’s another thought, Joe:
At the deepest levels of Consciousness there is no right or wrong, good or bad; there just IS! There is what we like and what we don’t like, what works or us and what doesn’t, what makes us happy and what doesn’t. I started working with this idea several years ago because it makes sense. It’s the heart of free will, something Ra points out. In practical terms, it forces us to pay attention to our experience and learn from it. Letting ourselves to be controlled by the shame or guilt and the brutality of punishment assumes we’re instinctive creatures that must be programmed, instead of being both products of creation and creation itself. Cheers!
I read both. And I now make the Sun emanate violet rays with my thoughts.
I also saw two years in a row, on the very first Sunday after carnival was finished, the “balls of light”. Second time OUT OF MY HOMES WINDOW. If they were UFOs, they even know where we live. Check my website.
Though I read both, I preffer Seth BY FAR.
Although, I like now better the Galactic Federation of Light channellings talking about Ascension to the 5th Dimension!
(Check my crystalline body menu heading.)
Is creativity wrong by sticking an oar in the stream,.
To create what it likes, consciousness must be free to determine what it doesn’t like. For all Being and Creation to fulfill its greatest potential, it would have to exist in an environment of unconditional love. Don’t you agree? By definition, unconditional love itself, says: nothing you can ever think, feel, say or do can keep you from being loved unconditionally. When Unconditional Love tells us that all it expects of us is just to “Be,” it leaves it up to us to decide how we want to be. This is choice. It is responsibility. It is freedom. And, it is power.